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Walthers Lightweight Plastic Passenger Cars

Updated 11/7/05

To see the prototype for all Walthers cars, check this link.

Walthers Budd Series Cars

Beginning in 2001, Walthers released a series of very high quality plastic Budd cars. Some of these are ATSF prototypes. The following pages will examine those of ATSF interest.

The Society has published two books which are the authority on many of these: Head End Cars (now out of print) and Coach, Smoker & Chair Car Geneaology.

NumberPrototypeNotes
932-6305 85' Budd 46-Seat CoachATSFBlt. 1953, #2816-2860 (CS&CC250) (PCL5:113)
932-16303 85' 46-Seat Coach without skirtsATSFBlt. 1953, #2816-2860 (CS&CC250) (PCL5:113). Skirts were later removed for easy maintenance.
932-9001 Budd Pine Series 10-6 Sleeper ATSFThere are numerous differences from the 932-6345 above. Pines were delivered 1949-50.
932-6385 Budd Streamlined 52-Seat CoachSALClose to ACL by 1/2 window. For the kitbasher this has potential for the ATSF 1388 series, but it will require lots of work (PCL5:68)
932-6405 73' Budd BaggageATSF#3500 series, blt. 1953+ (PCL5:107)
932-16403 73' Budd Baggage without skits.ATSF#3500 series, blt. 1953+ (PCL5:107). Skirts were later removed for easy maintenance.
932-9002 Budd 73' Baggage ATSFThe same as 932-6405 above.
932-6425 85' Budd LoungePRRCongo 29-1 Parlor, 1952. For the kitbasher this may have potential for the 3072 Coach series, but it will require lots of work (PCL5:20).
932-6445 63' Budd RPO CarATSF#89-98, blt. 1954 (PCL5:110)
932-9007 Budd 63' RPO ATSFThe same as 932-6445 above.
932-16442 Budd 63' RPO without skirtsATSFSame as above, sans skirts, after 1963

Walther's Pullman-Standard Passenger Cars

NumberPrototypeNotes
932-6700 Smooth-Side PS 4-4-2 SleeperUP, PRR, NYC, SP, CNW, CRI&P, and IC. The 4-4-2 smoothside is an Imperial series sleeper lot P-S cars of lot 6571 built in 1941. Both the NYC and PRR Imperial (later Bridge) cars were in transcontinental service on the "Chief. The NYC paint scheme is valid for the early 50s. The PRR paint scheme began around 1954 and the skits were not removed until around that date. For earlier dates, the two tone gray would be necessary. The PRR cars included Imperial Park, Imperial Pass, and Imperial Point..
932-6702 Fluted PS 4-4-2 SleeperATSF1938, Plan 4069C, Lot 6553 and 6597. The prewar fluted-side cars were used on the Chief and on the Super Chief until replaced by the Regal series cars of 1947. (P-SL1:29)
932-9005 PS 4-4-2 Sleeper ATSF Advertised as the 1938 Hotevilla series (smooth skirts), lot 6553, Plan 4069C. (P-SL1:29) This is the same as 932-6702 above. Kit comes with Regal decals, but is not a Regal car.
932-6722 Smooth-Side PS 6-6-4 SleepersATSF, SP, CNW, MP, Erie, IC, and CRI&PIC King Cotton, UP American, ATSF Valley. Lot 6669 plan 4099, built in 1941-42. The ATSF paint is from the mid 50s. (P-SL1:73)
932-16726 Smooth-Side PS 6-6-4 SleepersATSF ATSF Valley. Lot 6669 plan 4099, built in 1941-42. The ATSF paint is the earlier TTG. Announced for the Spring of 2005.
932-6742 Smooth-Side PS 10-5 SleepersATSF, NYC and PRRLot 6606 Plan 4072B, the Santa Fe Cascade series which included 2 cars, Cascade Mills and Cascade Shoals. The ATSF paint is from the mid 50s.
932-16746 Smooth-Side PS 10-5 SleepersATSFLot 6606 Plan 4072B, the Santa Fe Cascade series which included 2 cars, Cascade Mills and Cascade Shoals. The ATSF paint for this number is the earlier TTG paint.
932-9003 PS 36 Seat DinerATSF It is the 1950 built 600-606, Lot 6851, Plan 7625, blt. 1950. (P-SL1:151)
932-9004 PS 29 Seat Dormitory LoungeATSF It is the Lot 6849, Plan 7623, built 1950, #1339-44, (P-SL1:146)
932-9006 PS Pleasure DomeATSF It is the #500-5, Lot 6836, Plan 7616, blt. 12/50. (P-SL1:121)
932-9008 PS Vista Series Obs-LoungeATSFLot 6757, Plan 4115, built in 1947, these included Vista Canyon, Cavern, Heights, and Valley. They were squared off in 1956. (P-SL1:109)

1951 Santa Fe Super Chief Set

Walthers has produced a Santa Fe Super Chief set. Though all ran on the Super Chief, it would not have been at the same time. To make up a full Super Chief, you would have to cheat. Based on the 1951-53 consist:

Athearn Genesis F7 ABBA Set #47LABC#47 was blt. 10/52. For 1951, you must use an F unit #41 or lower.
Storage mail Walthers Budd 73' Baggage #3500 series, blt. 1953+, with skirts.
RPO (KC-LA) Walthers Budd 63' RPO, blt. 1954.
Sleeper 10-6 (KC-LA) Walthers Budd Pine, blt. 1950
Sleeper 10-6 (Palm/Pine) Walthers Budd Pine, blt. 1950
Sleeper 4-4-2 (3 days a week)(Regal) Walthers 4-4-2 Native American ran 1938-47. Regals replaced these in 1947.
Dome lounge (500-3, 5) Walthers P-S Pleasure Dome, blt. 1950
Diner (600-5)Walthers P-S 36 seat Diner, blt. 1950
Dorm-Lounge (1339-44)Walthers P-S 29 Seat Dorm-Lounge, blt. 1950.
Sleeper 4-4-2 (Regal)Walthers 4-4-2 Native American ran 1938-47. Regals replaced these in 1947.
Sleeper 4-4-2 (Regal)Walthers 4-4-2 Native American ran 1938-47. Regals replaced these in 1947.
Sleeper 10-6 (Palm) Walthers Budd Pine, blt. 1950 as stand in.
Sleeper-obs (Vista)Walthers Vista Series, built 1947.

Walther's Rivarossi Smooth Side Cars (new tooling 2003)

NumberPrototypeNotes
UPThis is the same UP prototype car they have sold for some time and is not correct for any ATSF baggage.

 

Walther's Trucks

Primary prototype references:

Coach, Smoker & Chair Car Geneaology by John B. McCall. Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society, 2005.

Head End Cars by Frank Ellington and Joe W. Shine. Santa Fe Railway Historical and Modeling Society, 1999.

The Passenger Car Library, Volume 5, Santa Fe / Southern Pacific, by W. David Randall, RPC Publications, 2002.

The Official Pullman-Standard Library, Volume 1, Santa Fe, by W. David Randall, RPC Publications, 1986.

Corrections and input to Steve Sandifer.


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